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Tazmanme

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So two weeks ago a grinder guard decided to come off at the worst possible moment, when I was running it , it got my index and middle fingers about as good as it could and have been taped up since when I was fishing last week it was a real problem taken off fish, as the fishing was good , after the first couple I pinched down the barb and it was so much easier to un hook them , So much so that I think I’m going to keep on doing it, I saw no big difference in hook up rates , so I wondered if any one else already did it and I was just learning something else, I’ve fished for a lot of trout on barbless hooks so , any thoughts?
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What you’ll learn is hooks made barbless are usually thinner. This allows for better penetration and they usually will have a “different” curve to them then barbed hooks to improve the hooks ability to stay in the fish. Now to de-barb a regular hook will impact your catch rates most likely. That barb is there for a reason. I too have slowly went more barbless but still use regular hooks most of the time because I do not like tying dropper loops and with no barb I lose a lot of flies and fish tying my dropper off the initial fly of a barbless hook.
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Originally Posted by Tazmanme
So two weeks ago a grinder guard decided to come off at the worst possible moment, when I was running it , it got my index and middle fingers about as good as it could and have been taped up since when I was fishing last week it was a real problem taken off fish, as the fishing was good , after the first couple I pinched down the barb and it was so much easier to un hook them , So much so that I think I’m going to keep on doing it, I saw no big difference in hook up rates , so I wondered if any one else already did it and I was just learning something else, I’ve fished for a lot of trout on barbless hooks so , any thoughts?

No difference in the hook up rates but don’t give em any slack lol

Thanks for being more kind to the fish faces :)

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I have to fish with barbless hooks at the R & G club that I belong to in the Poconos. I use the pliers on my Leatherman to bend the barb down and sometimes hear a snap. I am getting better as I fish more. I haven't thought about tying off the dropper but will have to see how that goes for me. The last time I fished that way the trout were more interested in the dry than the dropper.
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I don’t fish dry-dropper much, I was talking about the dropper nymph off the bend of another nymph.
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I need to get better with the dual nymph technique. This is how the guides set me up on the Frying Pan River in Colorado. The last time I was there, it was a triple nymph set up. It was very effective.
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Been barbless since the '90s. Not a great fisherman so I don't know if there's any difference. 😃
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I've gone barbless on all my smallie lures with treble hooks this year.  The main reason is I'm tired of hooking myself!  Got nailed trying to lip my first smallmouth of the year.  I use a dremel tool cutting wheel to grind off the barb.  I agree with Highfly, don't give them any slack.  I don't keep my fish so if a few get off it's no big deal.
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Eddy

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I de-barb most of my flies now. It does seem like I lose more fish by a small percentage, but it is just so much less of a hassle to release the fish. I may have to try to find some of the hooks that come premade without the barbs to see if that helps.
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Drifter

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 I go barbless. I have never really noticed a difference in hookup/lost fish between barbless hooks and hooks where  I have mashed down the barb with hemostats. I usually pinch down the barbs then sharpen the points on hooks I debarb myself.

   I really don't think I hardly ever miss/lose a fish because of the lack of a barb. When it happens, I think most often it is operator error. 

I don't fish  tiny flies hardly at all though, t might make more of a difference with the 20+ hooks
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Tazmanme

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So I fished the Cheat Sunday, water was limited visibility, Still did quite well for a short trip . I again pinched down all the barbs on hooks and only missed a couple of fish, and I really gotta attribute that to operator error, not hammering the hook set , I did have a lot of self removal as I grab the hook with one hand and reach to lip fish with other, so much so that after 5 or so I started to un button them outside the boat so I didn’t have to chase them around the floor of the raft, I’m going to stay on this course so much quicker to have the bait and fish back in the water, on a side note was wet wading the shavers on Saturday as it was nice and clear, and was standing out in the river I have know idea where he came from ,there was a bear standing 40 yards from me also in the river, I think we both saw each other about the same time, seemed like like a long 2 second staring contest then he decided not to fish with me, He was a good size bear, was really cool, had a great weekend
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I fly fish and if I don't have any barbless hooks on me I always clamp the barbs down on the others. Spin fishing I clamp the barbs on the trebled or cat fishing I use circle hooks and even clamp them down. I have yet to have any trouble with keeping fish hooked. Now with me saying this watch me start having trouble-ha!
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Jerry

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I fish 2 fly nymph rig most of the time. Commercial barbless flies or those tied-debarbed by a generous friend are not usable for upper fly, because tippet slips off the hook bend. Flies I debarb with hemostat retain a small bump on hook bend which prevents tippet from sliding off. Barbless flies make fish release easier-faster, and save a lot of angst when removing from one's own body or clothing. From my experience,I can't accurately say whether or not barbless result in more fish getting away.
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The entire purpose of barbless hooks is so the hook will release easier
so yes, you can absolutely expect to lose a few more fish. No question or
debate about it. Its basic mechanics.

I went through that many years ago and found it was less of a factor with
fly fishing than spinning or baitcasters. The heavier the lure and stiffer rods
make it easier to come unpinned during a jump with head shake.

Barbless hooks absolutely, positively contributed to more lost fish for me.
Not a single doubt in my mind.

After losing more large fish than I was willing to, I got past my barbless stage.




 
 


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I fish 2 fly nymph rig most of the time. Commercial barbless flies or those tied-debarbed by a generous friend are not usable for upper fly, because tippet slips off the hook bend. Flies I debarb with hemostat retain a small bump on hook bend which prevents tippet from sliding off. Barbless flies make fish release easier-faster, and save a lot of angst when removing from one's own body or clothing. From my experience,I can't accurately say whether or not barbless result in more fish getting away.



Leave a long tag line from your knot on the top fly for your dropper instead of tying the dropper to the hook bend if you want to use barbless top and bottom.

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Drifter

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Leave a long tag line from your knot on the top fly for your dropper instead of tying the dropper to the hook bend if you want to use barbless top and bottom.



   This is  easier, or at least faster, to tie  too. I do find, however, that on windy days or when I need to use anything but a basic cast I am more likely to get tangles than when I tie to the hook bend. 
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I always pinch my barbs BEFORE I tie my fly, because nothing is more frustrating than tying a fly only to break the hook when pinching the barb afterward. 
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