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h2okjaw

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Moving back to the motherland and away from the marshes of the Lowcountry. To all if reading this do yourself right and chase tailing redfish in the spring and fall in the Lowcountry if ever have an opportunity. It is life changing. Currently I cruise the back waters of the marsh in a Gheenoe LT25 here and is shallow boat but do not anticipate the structure of waters I will be fishing back in WV (Tygart, Buchannon, Elk etc) to be kind to her. My thoughts are to sell Gheenoe and can get enough out of her for a raft or yak of choice. Looking at Watermaster or Dave Scadden for rafts. Looking into Vibe and Jackson for yaks. One note is have a lil fella (6 yr old) and for that reason considering buying the smaller G3 (10/12 ft) as well if can what I should out of Gheenoe or do I just go with 2 man raft and a slick solo yak? Open to any suggestions for consideration. Also 99% of fishing will be throwing a fly.

Not leaving until end of May so have couple months of Flood tides. If anyone is down this way hit me up as the Gheenoe will be last thing to be removed for the move. Gotta have priorties right. .

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Why move back here?  unless family related or something like that, I'd stay where I was...
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You are correct…family based decision. One note is glad we live in a place where we can always move away to say we regret this decision. I am hopeful though that this will be one the best decisions we have made. One positive moving back home…well at least you already know what sucks about it.
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Good for you man.   My little brother wants to move back here to raise his family.   When I tell people, sometimes the really pessimistic will ask a question like the one above.    My brother has successfully lived in Portland OR, Naples FLA, Charleston SC, and Staunton VA.    He wants to move back because he is from WV and proud of it and said it was better here than in all the cities I just listed.   I feel the same.   We might not be perfect, I always knew that, but I love it here.   
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If you were to sell the gheenoe, you could probably get a jon boat with a jet motor and a kayak for even skinner water. Or supplement the gheenoe with a kayak
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I just had this same conversation with Fishn2huntn... A lot depends on where you live.  Sounds like you are in the middle of WV so you have a lot of options.
Here are my lengthy thoughts on your options tonight...

If WV had more tailwaters and you are fly fishing, I would say get a drift boat! But we lack in that department.  

A raft is my favorite to fish from. It's comfortable and you can spend more time fishing, standing up and seeing the water better/fish activity, and hit stretches of water that some don't want to take kayaks down.  A raft you have to worry about transportation (roll up, or trailer), set up and tear down time for some, and it's much slower on the water. Flat pools and strong head-winds suck! Trying to anchor down in a raft is not as easy either; there is a lot of drag on the surface. Most of the time you have to find another partner to join you, and then worry about the shuttle... Another con: cost and associated costs...  

With a raft you are almost dependent on something you can't control... mother nature. If you are retired/flexible work schedule, you can hit our rivers a lot more, but still dependent on the rain!  Or you can always take long trips to the New River, lol.

Recently, I have become obsessed with my kayak. It opens up all kinds of water my raft prevented me from... lakes, flat/slow rivers. It also makes it easier to float a couple more days when you don't want to drag a big raft down the river in low summer flows.  It's easy to transport and set up. Just throw, strap, and go! I can also go alone and not have to worry about a shuttle on these bodies of water.  In a kayak, I noticed I get less casts in moving water though.  Any kayak will need adjustment in current. Some tread very well, but still need adjustments.  Costs can be great, but some yaks are getting ridiculously expensive.  That's why I personally went with a higher end fishing kayak that won't hurt the bank as much as the others. If you don't have good balance, a kayak may not be ideal. 

I would look at used rafts on here, or inexpensive PVC ones. They are really all you need to fish.  If you were a whitewater junkie I would look at higher end options and other materials. If you get an inexpensive Kayak, you maybe be able to get a raft also, and then you are set!!


As for fly fishing during floats.  It's really tough.  You almost have to have someone row for you when the rivers are "floatable".  
Not everyone wants to sit and paddle, and pass up good water when your partner is fly fishing and can't hit tons of great water/opportunities. It's personal preference. Sometimes I enjoy watching others fish and guiding them.  Other times when conditions are prime for a big fish, I want to fish as well as the other person to be fishing to maximize the opportunity for a trophy.

I love my raft, but I am rowing 80-90% of my trips so it's hard fly fishing and rowing.  Sometimes I just don't have time to get out and wade, or if the water will permit that (I'm a high water junkie so usually not).  It has almost forced me to spin fish because of this.  I swallowed my pride, and got the hardware out... and, I started catching a lot of bigger fish too LOL! This is not a knock on fly fishing, which I love first and foremost... but it's logics/math/percentages in my opinion, probably because I am exponentially covering more water, easier, faster, and almost effortlessly multiplying casts per minute. Again, personal preference. Sometimes I only take a fly rod and just have fun doing so.

Fly fishing and a kayak is a whole other ballgame.  It's fun, but there are a lot of things to get the fly line wrapped/caught on. Some of the kayaks now you can stand in. If you are 99% fly fishing, get a stable kayak you can stand in. Sitting down and fly fishing is tough and hard to see. It will make you MUCH better caster though!

You mentioned your little fishing partner... I'm most familiar with the Vibe lineup. They just released a double seated Yellowfin 130T. People are using it for doubles or a fishing kayak that's stable and tons of storage/room to fish from.  

Hopefully this helps... I spend hours and hours, entire weekends on the river most of the time.  There has been a LOT of trial and error here, the hard way.  Good luck and welcome home!

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Well written, well said. Feel like you should’a got a small stipend for it.
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Raft or yak it all comes down to fishing solo or with buddies there is several rafts on the market but I usually fish midweek solo so a yak is perfect for solo day trips and a lot of the waters here.
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Thanks for the insight. I am going to sell the Gheenoe and instead of having to wrestle the decision just going to use the funds to buy both raft and yak. My thoughts are that if I just do it now there is no need to explain the "need" later on the home front. 😄 👍🏼👍🏼
Before taking this plunge anyone have any thoughts on the Watermaster raft? Kodiak or Grizzly? Plan to order the floor as a add on if purchase. One item that is selling me on the raft is "packable" and ability to either stand up with no floor or add the floor for time when needed. Already sold on a particular yak which obviously it not but will be easy for when have the quick solo missions.

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You might look at “Profishwv” Bobby carries “RMR” rafts and cats . Super good to deal with , made me a great deal. Just saying, might have a look. He posts on here once in awhile. Bought mine for less than I could buy direct from rmr.
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Also on the watermaster, look at the Bruin that they just released. I agree with Tazmanme for talking to Bobby for rafts, super nice guy. A couple other rafts to consider would be the flycraft, stealthcraft hooligan, and smithfly
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Took a look at the watermaster rafts.  Personally I wouldn't care for the small tubes, lack of rocker and partial floor. For the same money you could buy a small Rocky Mountain Raft such as the SB 105 and have a far more versatile boat.  If you are looking for a very light boat take a look at the shredders made by Airtight Inflatables in Ohiopyle Pa.  Super design, easy to paddle alone, very capable in whitewater.  Also made in the USA.  If you are looking for a personal fishing raft take a look at the NRS Gigbob https://www.nrs.com/product/84001.02/nrs-gigbob-20-personal-fishing-watercraft  Excellent company that has been standing behind their products for over 40 years.
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I don't know much about rafts/pricing and have only floated a few times but I saw one that looked kinda cool.
T rex mini drifter

https://creekcompany.com/product.php?productid=16447

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