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Good info here!  The Trough on the SBP has some awesome camping spots. McFishing can give you the skinny on the cfs. 
The Greenbrier has some great options pending water... Maybe the Lower Elk too.
The New is probably one of the better choices because you never have to worry about having enough water and private property for the most part, just rapids.
I was surprised to see the Cheat recommended at 300cfs... that will require more walking and dragging than I thought you would want to take on, especially if you are carrying overnight gear, and also risk some nasty rock rash on the yak. I wouldn't take your sit on tops there below 500cfs at the very least, which still has some low gravel bars and flat sections where you would want to beat your head on a rock.  Woolybugger will attest. Cheat also has very little public camping.  I don't think any is "advertised" other than a few campgrounds.

Shavers has some camping options below Little Black fork, but you can get into some choppy water here and need at least 500cfs at Bowden gauge, and it usually drops fast this time of year!!! You will need good balance with your sit on top.


I've not floated as much as you have, but given my experience floating the cheat in a canoe, I'm not really concerned unless the flow drops below 250. For a short float, I would even go down as low as 100 cfs (acknowledging that there will be a lot of wading/walking), but I don't get much time to fish, and sometimes have to just go when I can go.

Thanks for adding some about Shavers Fork, I was spit-balling an idea, but do not have any experience on that stretch of river.

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The main hole in grassy shoals is right of center on the left side channel of the New. The wave train is on the left bank. The hole can easily flip a kayak.

You can go right of the hole however all of the water is pushing you left. If the water is high you can even go right of the Island.

I would take it all out of play by doing Sandstone to Glade Creek.


Thank you sir. I'm not sure if we're going to float the new, but if we do I'd follow your recommendations and stop at Glade Creek. Seems to be the safe bet.

It looks to be 10 miles from the Sandstone launch to Glade creek. We could take our time fishing and make that last two days. The half way point is just past the little community of Meadow Creek. It's looks like we're well within the NP boundaries and I would imagine we shouldn't have any issues with riverside camping for a night. A short 5 mile float would give ample time to relax around camp.

Thanks again for the suggestions.
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Very interesting cling! I guess it depends on what section and preference.  250 is skinny!
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Very interesting cling! I guess it depends on what section and preference.  250 is skinny!


I based that number on my experience and also this website: http://cheatriverwatertrail.org/plan-your-trip/safety-gauges/

I just checked the gauge, and the last time I floated the gauge was reading about 265. I floated from route 50 to Rowlesburg, a short afternoon float. With two guys (but we are smaller ~approx 170 pounds each), a cooler, and bunch of fishing gear in a 14.5 foot canoe, I think we had to get out only twice to drag the canoe for less than 100' each time. 

To me, that wasn't bad at all.


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Very interesting cling! I guess it depends on what section and preference.  250 is skinny!


Agree that 250 is getting kinda low.  While I certainly prefer 500 cfs or more I don't have any problem(at least on the sections I usually fish) down to 300.  Part of the reason I really like fishing from a plastic sit on top is that if I scrape/bang a rock I don't have to worry about damaging the boat. 

We used to take 6 man rafts down the Cheat at 300 with customers.  Getting myself and a kayak through the riffles is way less stressful:-)
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Grassy Shoals


Quinnmont





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The big hit at grassy shoals is at the 46 second mark. You can go right or left of it. The majority of flow is to the left.

Around the 1:20 mark on the Quinamont video is the nasty rock to their right. Its more of a hole at 6ft.


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Thats good stuff, thanks Cheat. I just finished watching this video of a large group of guys in SOT fishing kayaks doing an overnight trip trough that section. They go through both grassy shoals and Quinnimont. I think two guys tip in grassy and one in Quinnimont... Looked like a fun trip. It looks like a few guys played it smart and decided to portage the rapids.

They did that trip Aug 26-27. It looks like the Hinton gauge was between 1.65 - 1.9 for those two days.

Grassy is at the 2:45 minute mark and Quinnimont is around 10:20.


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Cool video. I like his rod float pool noodles. Good idea if you think there’s a chance of flipping.
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Cool video. I like his rod float pool noodles. Good idea if you think there’s a chance of flipping.


I noticed those too and was wondering of they were pool noodles or something specifically for fishing rods.
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I noticed those too and was wondering of they were pool noodles or something specifically for fishing rods.


Amazon has a 3 pack for about 9 bucks. I might have to pick up some.
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I'd be happy to provide some references for public land locations along the Cheat (also Shavers and Dry/Black Fork) if you're wanting to hit that area.
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