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pawpaw9

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I have been looking at the trout fisheries in Arkansas and am strongly considering going out there to try it. It seems like from what I have found it may be best to float with a guide at least the first time you go. Any ideas or pointers on guides or which streams are best would be appreciated. I was thinking of going in September but everything I find says you can catch fish year round in any water condition.
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Look up the trout magnet guys online I know they have a jet boat and guide the rivers out there
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Not sure how far you'll willing to venture away from Arkansas but I highly recommend fishing/floating the North Fork of the White River near Caulfield, MO.  It's a blue ribbon freestone with a very healthy population of wild rainbows and fingerling stocked browns that grow to gargantuan sizes. 

I booked Brian Wise (flyfishingtheozarks.com) when I was out there a few years ago.  He's a very down to earth, knowledgeable guy and love's targeting large browns with articulated deceivers.  If I ever do another cross country drive, I'm 100% going back there and fishing with him.  Especially if it's in the Fall.

If you do make it to the NF White, Sunburst Ranch is a great place to camp right on the river and the folks that run it are top notch.

Another recommended shop is Steve Dally's.  They put people on big fish on the White River. across the border in AR.

You really can't go wrong fishing in the Ozarks though.  People are pretty convinced that the next world record brown is going to come out of one of those tailwaters.
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Arkansas you have two main streams The Little Red and The White. The White is huge water the Little Red isn't to bad. You can fish Shoal areas. Little Red I've fished at JFK Park, Swinging Bridge, and cow Shoals. There are some good Brown's in the system and TONS of stocked rainbows. It's a different fishing experience. The White your probably a lot better on a boat.
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Agree on the North Fork of the White. I fished it up higher where the springs turn a smallmouth stream into trout water.  Some friends and I just rented canoes.  Up higher there are very few browns, but tons of wild rainbows.  There were a lot of people floating it, most just for fun.  I saw several other people fishing, but they had no clue how to catch a trout.  Everyone else fished the deep holes.  I would get out and wade in the riffles.  Lots of fish, beautiful fish, and good size wild rainbows.
[DSCF6648_zpsbx9fawz8]  One other stream I  really enjoyed if you are into wild trout was Crane creek (MO).  If the flows are good any you get any type of hatch it is great.  I would not go there if you were there during low flows, those fish disappear.
    For a ton of stocked rainbows and some big browns you could also check out Tanyecomo (especially if you do a fall trip). There are some giant browns in there MO record from there is like 30 lbs and I know of a fish that was 40 that was found floating in there. Chartered Waters is the name a of guide service that puts people on big browns that want to wade and sight fish for them.


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Thanks for all the info. I am not sure exactly why the Arkansas bug bit me. I guess it may be the trout fishing from a boat that intrigued me. It will probably be fall before I go.
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I am also very interested in those leviathan ozark browns. And that rainbow is as pretty as any I've seen everywhere.
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If I use hard earned pto and hump all my gear that far I'm prolly gonna keep going till I hit the Montana lol

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I am also very interested in those leviathan ozark browns. And that rainbow is as pretty as any I've seen everywhere. -but- If I use hard earned pto and hump all my gear that far I'm prolly gonna keep going till I hit the Montana lol


Could make for a good half way stop on the way to Montana....
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You also have the Norfork river between Norfork lake and the White river too. That's in Arkansas. Its been a few years since I was there, stayed at Genes trout resort.
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I was thinking the Little Red River in September. I even have this crazy idea in my head about taking kayaks out there and floating it. I figured that would be much cheaper than hiring a guide.
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So we are finally going to Arkansas this Wednesday and fishing Thursday and Friday. We are hoping between the White and Norfork there will be plenty of wadeable water. If there is not then we are going to rent a boat. I am mostly going to spin fish but I am taking my fly rod. I am a beginner but can cast ok but have no idea what to use. If I do fly fish is there a pattern that would be more all purpose so to speak? San Juan or egg patterns? From what I have read dry fly is not the way to go. I look on all the outfitter sights out there and they name a million different patterns.

Any input appreciated.
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Local guides will know best.  Depending on where you are on the white river system there are several tail waters.  Tail waters out there tend to be full of scuds and midges in the 16-24 size range.  If they are generating I would focus on larger flies for the giant fish that live in that system, I would have an 7-8 weight with the biggest articulated trout flies I could find.  For spin fishing I would use rapalas and spinners.  The most beautiful rainbow I have ever caught was from the North Fork on the MO side.  There are some sections that are great canoe water on the MO side of the North Fork that are polluted with wild bows.

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Tony Wheeler, Curmudegeon, has some valuable info about Arkansas.
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I fished the White River about 12-13 years ago in April.  The guy we talked to at the fly shop said we could use any fly we wanted as long as it was a scud!  
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If you're on facebook look up "fly fishing with tj kessler".  He's a WV guy who used to live and guide on the White in Arkansas and is moving back soon.  I'm sure he would be more than happy to give you some help.
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I noticed that a lot of the guide websites also mentioned scuds and midges. I have several scuds and midges in my fly box ... If you can call it that haha. While it would be nice to land one of those giant browns on a fly rod I am hoping to land A trout on the fly rod. I am under equipped and prob not skilled enough to land a giant right off the bat haha.

No I am not on facebook. I intend on calling a fly shop out there on the way out to see if they can give any advice.

Thanks.
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By the way tw .... I am not typically one to call a fish pretty .... But that one sure is.
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Don’t forget the Little Red! Great areas to fish it up by the Adam and JFK park. Scuds are a must out there. Biggest thing find the shoals area if your not using a boat and watch river releases. The white is a huge river lots of good streamer fishing there with some big browns.
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When I started looking at taking the trip out there the Little Red is where I wanted to go.  My buddy wants to go to the White.  In the last two weeks since I have been looking at the power generation and USGS water flow for the Little Red they have been running wide open.  They haven't shut the gates one time.
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I would highly recommend hiring a guide.  The White and Norfork Rivers in Arkansas are big rivers, and river levels can actually fluctuate 10 feet per day due to power generation.  There are some wade spots during low flows but catching the low flows is difficult at best.  A good guide with the right kind of boat will help you get over the learning curve there.  You will find that there is a whole lot of trout however the big ones that the area is famous for do not come easy.  A good guide can help with that too.

There are a lot of guides who are expert corn fisherman.  They anchor up over a spot, and they chum the heck out of it.  Their clients then fill the boat with trout.  They kill insane amounts of fish.

I would seek out a guide who specializes in fly fishing.

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I floated the North Fork in MO at flood stage in a canoe when I was a teen.  It was an adventure.  I probably could have drowned.  The outfitter that rented us the canoe had no business sending two 16 year old boys down the river that day.  But we sure had fun.
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We found wadeable water both days. It seemed everyone here fly fishes. They are having a fly tying convention here. Everyone we talked to said they weren't catching anything ... Yesterday evening we got into a bunch of fish and I broke out the fly rod ... No luck.

We caught 92 fish in 2 days ... Several 15 to 16 inch fish. I hooked one on a rapala at Rim Shoals that was stripping my smallmouth rig like nothing then he shook the lure out.

I was open to a guide but it didn't happen.

I liked it here but very crowded ... You could get to a sweet spot then a guide would anchor a boat right beside of you.
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There is the Spring River.
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